1 00:00:06,820 --> 00:00:02,200 [Applause] 2 00:00:13,669 --> 00:00:08,480 hello Cynthia 3 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:13,679 hello thank you hi how are you thank you 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:16,049 for joining us I'm doing great thank you 5 00:00:19,900 --> 00:00:17,970 thanks for having me thanks for inviting 6 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:19,910 me on the show oh no problem 7 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:22,529 we were just kind of I don't here we 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:23,760 were just talking just shooting the [\h__\h] 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:26,730 a little bit and we kind of gave a 10 00:00:31,999 --> 00:00:30,570 rundown of who you are and what you've 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:32,009 done but maybe you can just give us 12 00:00:39,229 --> 00:00:36,210 maybe an elevator speech about your 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:39,239 background and what you do exactly okay 14 00:00:45,529 --> 00:00:42,450 well I am basically a life coach and an 15 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,539 author and I specialize in a field of 16 00:00:49,569 --> 00:00:47,280 what I guess you could call quantum 17 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:49,579 consciousness lack of a better phrase 18 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:52,110 which sounds really whoo-whoo and New 19 00:00:57,260 --> 00:00:54,510 Age but actually I do have a degree in 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:57,270 physics from UC Berkeley and I do write 21 00:01:02,330 --> 00:00:59,690 papers on occasion about physics about 22 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:02,340 quantum logic that sort of thing and I 23 00:01:07,010 --> 00:01:04,949 have a deep relationship with many 24 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:07,020 scientists in the field as well 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:08,760 who are interested in much more than 26 00:01:14,179 --> 00:01:11,610 just shut up and calculate and for me 27 00:01:16,850 --> 00:01:14,189 quantum physics holds a great deal of 28 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:16,860 the key to understanding what's going on 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:18,840 when we see things like the Mandela 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:21,770 effect when we see the placebo effect 31 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:25,170 when we witness synchronicities and just 32 00:01:30,530 --> 00:01:27,479 basically observe alternate histories 33 00:01:34,819 --> 00:01:30,540 and things changing in a very miraculous 34 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:34,829 manner that's that's awesome died I'm 35 00:01:40,219 --> 00:01:37,740 kind of want to gut check the quantum 36 00:01:43,149 --> 00:01:40,229 physics thing all I remembered learning 37 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:43,159 about it is that at the quantum level 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Quantum's behave differently when 39 00:01:51,819 --> 00:01:49,530 observed which is something that if the 40 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:51,829 quantum is smaller than the atom then 41 00:01:59,660 --> 00:01:55,770 this tells us a lot about how the tree 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:01:59,670 falls in the wood thing maybe kind of 43 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:02,250 impacts people 44 00:02:08,570 --> 00:02:04,380 you know what I mean is one there watch 45 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:08,580 it all right yeah exactly and then of 46 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:10,500 course the caution that we get from 47 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:12,650 quantum physicists themselves 48 00:02:17,090 --> 00:02:14,580 historically have been that we can't 49 00:02:19,010 --> 00:02:17,100 generalize to that level and quantum 50 00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:19,020 physics is only quantum physics the idea 51 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:21,900 but having said all that the truth is 52 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:23,400 exactly what you're saying that the 53 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:26,660 observer makes a huge difference in fact 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:29,370 the pivotal plays a pivotal role and you 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:31,410 can't discount that when an observation 56 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:33,690 happens and the role of the observer is 57 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:36,390 quite intrinsic to quantum physics 58 00:02:41,810 --> 00:02:38,940 itself there's no way to pull that apart 59 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:41,820 and to suddenly say that no you can have 60 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:44,640 the the pillars the assumption pillars 61 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:47,040 that we had used for so long with 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:48,660 classical physics that seem like they 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:50,970 were doing so well in other words that 64 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:53,370 we could have an objective observer that 65 00:02:57,980 --> 00:02:55,110 had nothing to do with what was 66 00:03:01,430 --> 00:02:57,990 happening experimentally that is not the 67 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:01,440 case at all and it completely changes 68 00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:04,650 everything to observe that quantum 69 00:03:08,420 --> 00:03:06,060 particle which could be an electron 70 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:08,430 could be a photon something tiny like 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:09,810 you said that's smaller than the atom 72 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:12,570 and so the other piece of this is that 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:14,310 what's happening on that Atomics 74 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:17,850 tiny scale absolutely matters everywhere 75 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:20,670 and it's not just happening only in that 76 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:23,820 very teeny tiny rep so-called a realm it 77 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:26,130 is happening everywhere and everything 78 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:28,860 is connected at that level so these are 79 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:31,920 the sort of the dirty secrets of quantum 80 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:35,310 physics shall we say because it's very 81 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:37,230 easy for some people to get up on a high 82 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:39,360 horse and say you can't generalize like 83 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:40,560 this you can't call it quantum 84 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:43,200 consciousness you can't say that your 85 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:45,540 observation is having an effect globally 86 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:47,640 or in a bigger level than simply this 87 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:50,250 one experiment right here but I think 88 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:52,410 it's pretty obvious you can say that and 89 00:03:58,009 --> 00:03:54,660 we do have enough experimental evidence 90 00:04:00,199 --> 00:03:58,019 to suggest that is the case when when it 91 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:00,209 comes to observing events and people 92 00:04:03,740 --> 00:04:02,010 remembering stuff like this like the 93 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:03,750 Mandela effect I think anybody who 94 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,280 watches this show will probably know 95 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:07,500 what that is but there's been a recent 96 00:04:13,690 --> 00:04:10,470 one going around where people remember 97 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:13,700 and McMahan of the Johnny Carson show 98 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:15,630 working and deliver 99 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:18,750 giant checks to people for the publisher 100 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,400 Publishers Clearing House but it turns 101 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:22,560 out he did not work for Publishers 102 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:24,690 Clearing House that he was actually a 103 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:26,640 spokesperson for American family 104 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:29,580 publishers and you know that's a very 105 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:34,080 kind of benign kind of like a Mandela 106 00:04:36,890 --> 00:04:34,650 effect 107 00:04:39,140 --> 00:04:36,900 are there any larger ones or what does 108 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:39,150 that really mean why do I like why 109 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:40,560 should I care whether or not 110 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:42,870 Ed McMahon worked for something that was 111 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:44,580 just a few off what does that really 112 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:48,210 mean for us as people living on earth in 113 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:51,320 this reality well for me if you 114 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:53,850 recognize number one that this could be 115 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:55,800 a real phenomenon instead of just 116 00:05:02,000 --> 00:04:58,530 mistaken impressions or confusion of the 117 00:05:03,980 --> 00:05:02,010 memory and that that's the the huge leap 118 00:05:06,590 --> 00:05:03,990 here because for people that hear that 119 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:06,600 example and think well it's obvious you 120 00:05:11,780 --> 00:05:10,320 got those two businesses mixed up so in 121 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:11,790 that case they're not going to go any 122 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:14,220 further with us in this and what this 123 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:16,230 means for us but the implications are 124 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:18,900 truly mind-blowing and staggering and 125 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:21,180 huge and very positive for all of 126 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,010 humanity and for dealing with all the 127 00:05:27,770 --> 00:05:25,440 beyond some crises that we face on earth 128 00:05:29,750 --> 00:05:27,780 but but just sticking with this one 129 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:29,760 example it's brilliant the Ed McMahon 130 00:05:34,580 --> 00:05:32,070 one I think people in America can relate 131 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:34,590 to it maybe it's not such a powerful 132 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:37,410 thing for those living in Europe or Asia 133 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:40,500 but in North America here in America I 134 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:42,810 remember Ed McMahon with a giant check 135 00:05:47,450 --> 00:05:45,270 it was an unmistakable image it was 136 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:47,460 something of a mean to something that 137 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:49,710 takes on kind of a life of its own 138 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:52,440 because people daydream about it and you 139 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:53,850 might tell your friends wouldn't it be 140 00:05:58,010 --> 00:05:56,010 great if you get home and you see Ed 141 00:06:00,860 --> 00:05:58,020 McMahon John the workhorse or something 142 00:06:01,850 --> 00:06:00,870 but this giant check you know it's kind 143 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:01,860 of something that people talk about 144 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:04,440 laugh about and so it had relevance in 145 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:06,540 her culture that's why it's significant 146 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:09,270 and to suddenly say oh that was never 147 00:06:13,370 --> 00:06:11,520 the case there were no giant checks in 148 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:13,380 fact he didn't even work for that 149 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:15,300 company he worked for him whatever 150 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:16,950 America can't even think of what it was 151 00:06:19,970 --> 00:06:17,910 supposedly 152 00:06:21,620 --> 00:06:19,980 American American publishing company 153 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:21,630 something like that it's it's similar 154 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:22,470 but not exact 155 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:25,740 I remember him I I remember it the way 156 00:06:30,650 --> 00:06:28,680 everyone else remembers it is and 157 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:30,660 like I believe I believe that there's 158 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:33,240 different things going on I have a bunch 159 00:06:37,719 --> 00:06:34,710 of different memories that I can't 160 00:06:40,219 --> 00:06:37,729 really place and no one else can can 161 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:40,229 verify that I remembered it that way so 162 00:06:45,469 --> 00:06:43,500 am i jumping into different realities or 163 00:06:47,409 --> 00:06:45,479 am i jumping with people how do I jump 164 00:06:50,020 --> 00:06:47,419 into a new reality with somebody and I 165 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:50,030 mean how do you really measure that 166 00:06:56,029 --> 00:06:52,650 right well what's happening this gets it 167 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:56,039 very we're going deep and fast but what 168 00:07:00,100 --> 00:06:57,570 I think is happening is that we are 169 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:00,110 entangled with others that were 170 00:07:04,460 --> 00:07:02,580 connected with in various ways like 171 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:04,470 family members friends people you love 172 00:07:08,540 --> 00:07:06,360 people you care about so you might 173 00:07:10,159 --> 00:07:08,550 notice just a synchronicity with a 174 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:10,169 friend for example where you both think 175 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:12,300 of each other at the same time and then 176 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,650 the phone rings and your friend is 177 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:14,400 calling you 178 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:16,860 or maybe you're calling them and they're 179 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:18,120 right there and pick it right up and 180 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:19,530 they're not busy like you thought they 181 00:07:21,950 --> 00:07:19,800 were 182 00:07:23,779 --> 00:07:21,960 this was more relevant before cellphones 183 00:07:26,499 --> 00:07:23,789 but now everybody's got their phone with 184 00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:26,509 them but that used to be a big deal 185 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:29,160 because that dates me a bit so that's 186 00:07:31,939 --> 00:07:31,050 one way to notice the entanglement but 187 00:07:34,909 --> 00:07:31,949 you know what I mean about the 188 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:34,919 synchronicity when so these kind of 189 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:38,910 random Mandela effects are happening on 190 00:07:43,820 --> 00:07:41,130 a global scale and they're happening to 191 00:07:45,890 --> 00:07:43,830 large groups of people at the same time 192 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:45,900 so in Asia they get their mandela 193 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:48,150 effects in europe they've got some that 194 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:50,010 are specific to their area we've got 195 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:51,810 some that are global having to do with 196 00:07:56,540 --> 00:07:54,150 things like star wars and so forth some 197 00:08:00,129 --> 00:07:56,550 political figures and what's really 198 00:08:03,770 --> 00:08:00,139 going on is that - - those who are 199 00:08:05,629 --> 00:08:03,780 mostly they don't want to get too 200 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:05,639 technical but there's something called 201 00:08:09,950 --> 00:08:07,289 quantum Zeno effect it's like the 202 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:09,960 watched pot never boils and it's very 203 00:08:15,409 --> 00:08:12,479 real within quantum physics that you can 204 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:15,419 absolutely unlock a quantum system into 205 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:17,940 a particular state by observing it 206 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:20,250 constantly kind of like your OCD and 207 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:21,870 your just check check check check check 208 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:24,090 check checking in that system that's a 209 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:26,760 way to lock it in place and in a sense 210 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:29,520 we're doing that with some things and so 211 00:08:34,459 --> 00:08:32,130 what I noticed is when history changes a 212 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:34,469 little bit with regard to Publishers 213 00:08:38,860 --> 00:08:36,450 Clearing House or whatever Mandela 214 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,870 effect registers for a group of people 215 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:41,039 you're noticing that that group of 216 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:42,400 people 217 00:08:47,220 --> 00:08:44,880 like you said together collectively 218 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:47,230 experienced something very different 219 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:50,080 than where we currently acknowledge that 220 00:08:55,860 --> 00:08:52,510 history the historical facts would tell 221 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:55,870 us has always been true you know putting 222 00:09:00,420 --> 00:08:58,450 quotes around it because obviously some 223 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:00,430 of us remember things differently and so 224 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:03,610 this is so fascinating to me because you 225 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:05,380 bring up the mundane of them and I think 226 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:07,630 one of the big ones that a lot of people 227 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:09,570 were introduced to the Mandela effect 228 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:12,160 here in the United States was the 229 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:14,890 Berenstain Bears one and how it was 230 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:16,960 spelled and that's another one where it 231 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:18,250 was just kind of mundane it was like 232 00:09:23,250 --> 00:09:21,100 wait was it a or was it a or you know 233 00:09:25,410 --> 00:09:23,260 and so people kind of were like the 234 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:25,420 Mandela effect became popularized at 235 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:28,570 least for me then because it for for my 236 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:30,250 age group and I think probably a little 237 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:32,020 younger little older they all remember 238 00:09:35,579 --> 00:09:34,210 Berenstain Bears and I think for 239 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:35,589 something mundane it doesn't mean a 240 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:38,040 whole lot but when you take a quote like 241 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:40,810 from like Orwell for example where he 242 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:42,760 says who controls the past controls the 243 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:44,920 future who controls the present controls 244 00:09:49,949 --> 00:09:47,230 the past it's a there's something 245 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:49,959 interesting about how this is happening 246 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:52,990 why this is happening is there anything 247 00:09:58,970 --> 00:09:55,980 in control of it 248 00:10:01,070 --> 00:09:58,980 yes we actually are but then it gets to 249 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:01,080 the point of who are we and that's 250 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:02,610 really the central question that's 251 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:05,040 implicit in the observer in the physics 252 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:07,410 experiments to begin with who is the 253 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:09,570 observer and what does that mean what is 254 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:10,410 consciousness 255 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:14,700 these kind of questions are very telling 256 00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:16,500 because they indicate that we may have 257 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:18,750 been assuming a lot about ourselves but 258 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:21,330 in truth what I notice is that we've got 259 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:23,790 levels of awareness certainly we do 260 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:25,110 within each of ourselves 261 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:26,910 you can notice you've got your 262 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:29,430 subconscious your gut feelings that 263 00:10:34,580 --> 00:10:31,380 really drives what you need and that 264 00:10:36,650 --> 00:10:34,590 actually completely controls what you're 265 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:36,660 about to experience whether it's a great 266 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:39,360 fear or a great desire those things that 267 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:41,610 you most need you will get and then 268 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:43,200 there's that part of you that's your 269 00:10:48,260 --> 00:10:45,480 heart and what you love what you care 270 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:48,270 about and that part of you sometimes 271 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:50,130 people say they're guided by their heart 272 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:51,360 they shouldn't have listened to their 273 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:52,950 heart they should have listened to their 274 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:55,170 head or whatever and you'll notice 275 00:10:58,460 --> 00:10:56,700 things are different from that heart 276 00:11:00,200 --> 00:10:58,470 perspective and then you can look at it 277 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:00,210 simplistically like you're just knees 278 00:11:05,330 --> 00:11:02,970 doing everything analytically sticking 279 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:05,340 with the facts what's absolutely no one 280 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:07,470 for sure but these are different levels 281 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:09,120 of knowing within yourself different 282 00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:11,130 levels of self and there are yet further 283 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:13,740 ones that you can gain access to by 284 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:17,360 lucid dreaming by meditation and by 285 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:19,230 having something like a near-death 286 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:20,880 experience or some other kind of 287 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:22,470 exceptional human experience 288 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:24,930 those will absolutely take you out of 289 00:11:31,070 --> 00:11:28,700 yourself which is what's necessary to 290 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:31,080 consciously make a jump from one reality 291 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:33,210 to another otherwise we're pretty much 292 00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:36,240 doing it subconsciously completely mmm 293 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:38,040 there are some there's so many different 294 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:40,860 topics I want I want to get into with 295 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:42,390 you and we'll see if we have all the 296 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:43,860 time but I just want to I want to get 297 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:45,240 your opinion in your thought on 298 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:47,370 something that just happened to me last 299 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:49,290 night and today 300 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:52,890 so last night my fiancee Brianna she was 301 00:11:58,430 --> 00:11:55,920 at her computer and her her mouse her 302 00:12:01,130 --> 00:11:58,440 used to can was started to die it was 303 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:01,140 running out of battery juice 304 00:12:07,130 --> 00:12:04,110 and and then so the mouse was dying this 305 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:07,140 morning I I leave try to leave the house 306 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:10,600 and the garage door 307 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:14,230 brakes because a mouse got wrapped up in 308 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:18,340 the cord that lowers the garage door now 309 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:21,010 I don't I don't think I believe in just 310 00:12:25,830 --> 00:12:23,950 coincidences either anymore 311 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:25,840 I think everything kind of has a purpose 312 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:28,570 what can like that's just an example of 313 00:12:32,490 --> 00:12:30,220 a coincidence where a broken mouse on 314 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:32,500 the computer also translated to a broken 315 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:34,570 Mouse with a garage door is there am I 316 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:36,490 reading too much into this or how can 317 00:12:40,410 --> 00:12:39,130 people really use coincidences to 318 00:12:42,540 --> 00:12:40,420 determine what they should or shouldn't 319 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:42,550 do or observe right that's a good 320 00:12:47,060 --> 00:12:44,920 question I wrote a book called reality 321 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:47,070 shifts and that was the first one that I 322 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:50,580 delved into this exact subject about 323 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:52,690 synchronicities coincidences and this 324 00:12:57,390 --> 00:12:54,880 idea that you can look at your waking 325 00:12:59,490 --> 00:12:57,400 life as if it were a dream sometimes 326 00:13:02,340 --> 00:12:59,500 they synchronicities that pop up can be 327 00:13:05,310 --> 00:13:02,350 quite telling and quite symbolic so 328 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:05,320 there's some sort of a language of the 329 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:07,360 subconscious if you will because what 330 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:08,650 are the odds that you'd have two 331 00:13:12,060 --> 00:13:11,590 versions of broken Mouse yeah yeah 332 00:13:15,450 --> 00:13:12,070 exactly 333 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:15,460 yeah that's very much like a dream 334 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:17,710 symbol and so I don't know what that 335 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:19,450 means for you but obviously it's 336 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:22,060 significant and that's the way that our 337 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:24,490 events unfold in our lives is driven 338 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,770 again on this very subconscious level 339 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:29,200 which is the language of Dreams which is 340 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:31,300 why when you learn to wake up in your 341 00:13:36,510 --> 00:13:33,760 daily life such as when you're when 342 00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:36,520 you're dreaming to do a lucid dream is 343 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:38,320 basically to wake up within the dream 344 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,020 and recognize I am dreaming and from 345 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:43,120 that point you can start experiencing 346 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:45,010 everything in the dream on a very 347 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:47,440 different level of self though no longer 348 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:49,630 are you the pawn in the game but you are 349 00:13:54,570 --> 00:13:52,030 you're the player you know can move with 350 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:54,580 intent I've only lucid dreamed once and 351 00:13:58,010 --> 00:13:56,470 it was one of the best experiences of my 352 00:14:01,500 --> 00:13:58,020 life but I know that there's a whole 353 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:01,510 group of people that practice trying to 354 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:03,730 do this is this something you have been 355 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:07,090 able to like replicate or practice or do 356 00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:09,040 or is there advice for people who want 357 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:12,280 to try it yeah it's lucid dreaming is 358 00:14:17,130 --> 00:14:15,010 something that we all have access to and 359 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:17,140 it starts with starting to pay attention 360 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:19,120 to your dreams to begin with a lot of 361 00:14:22,530 --> 00:14:21,070 people think they don't dream or they 362 00:14:23,369 --> 00:14:22,540 usually it's because they don't get 363 00:14:26,939 --> 00:14:23,379 enough sleep 364 00:14:29,579 --> 00:14:26,949 or have too much stress or just don't 365 00:14:32,609 --> 00:14:29,589 have the ability to be quiet when they 366 00:14:34,319 --> 00:14:32,619 first wake up to reflect meditate and 367 00:14:36,929 --> 00:14:34,329 write down their dreams because once you 368 00:14:39,659 --> 00:14:36,939 need to start with that basic process 369 00:14:41,069 --> 00:14:39,669 first and just get into the habit of 370 00:14:42,929 --> 00:14:41,079 talking about your dreams writing them 371 00:14:45,299 --> 00:14:42,939 down something like that and then from 372 00:14:47,579 --> 00:14:45,309 there the next step is pretty simple 373 00:14:50,249 --> 00:14:47,589 just intend as you go to sleep each 374 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:50,259 night but tonight I will wake up inside 375 00:14:54,509 --> 00:14:52,809 my dream so and then of course there are 376 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:54,519 books on the subject group like you said 377 00:14:58,109 --> 00:14:56,049 there are groups of people that do this 378 00:14:59,909 --> 00:14:58,119 there are lots of resources right now 379 00:15:02,939 --> 00:14:59,919 thanks to the internet for people to 380 00:15:04,889 --> 00:15:02,949 dive in and get going with it but what 381 00:15:06,329 --> 00:15:04,899 I'm talking about with synchronicities 382 00:15:08,579 --> 00:15:06,339 and daily life is taking that a step 383 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:08,589 further and waking up within your waking 384 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:11,169 life which is just it's the natural 385 00:15:15,899 --> 00:15:13,089 progression beyond lucid dreaming 386 00:15:17,489 --> 00:15:15,909 it's just lucid living yeah I think 387 00:15:19,109 --> 00:15:17,499 there's a lot of people who are kind of 388 00:15:21,719 --> 00:15:19,119 just going through the motions in real 389 00:15:24,059 --> 00:15:21,729 life yes for sure 390 00:15:25,619 --> 00:15:24,069 sham we've had our moments I think each 391 00:15:28,019 --> 00:15:25,629 one of us has moments when we're on 392 00:15:29,669 --> 00:15:28,029 autopilot and you might not know how you 393 00:15:33,869 --> 00:15:29,679 got where you are or what's happening 394 00:15:36,149 --> 00:15:33,879 yeah she gets so busy you you've come to 395 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:36,159 this realization I hate to lump it all 396 00:15:40,699 --> 00:15:38,470 together but you know the reality 397 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:40,709 shifting and also using positive 398 00:15:47,179 --> 00:15:43,839 intentions and emotions to try to 399 00:15:48,929 --> 00:15:47,189 manifest what you what you want in life 400 00:15:51,149 --> 00:15:48,939 you've discovered this there's been 401 00:15:54,569 --> 00:15:51,159 other people like dr. Joe Dispenza he 402 00:15:57,210 --> 00:15:54,579 talks in a very similar way talk it 403 00:16:00,029 --> 00:15:57,220 teaches very similar to things is it 404 00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:00,039 possible or is it happening now that 405 00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:03,339 there are more evil people or secret 406 00:16:08,989 --> 00:16:06,279 organizations using the power of thought 407 00:16:10,859 --> 00:16:08,999 emotion and intention for bad purposes 408 00:16:14,819 --> 00:16:10,869 like I can speak some talk about 409 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:14,829 conspiracies here hmm well my preference 410 00:16:19,949 --> 00:16:16,720 when it comes to this my whole approach 411 00:16:21,419 --> 00:16:19,959 is to take a spiritual one which is it 412 00:16:24,479 --> 00:16:21,429 doesn't really matter I'm not advocating 413 00:16:27,689 --> 00:16:24,489 any particular religion or spiritual 414 00:16:30,479 --> 00:16:27,699 path but I think all of us are aware of 415 00:16:33,599 --> 00:16:30,489 like you said evil well the flipside of 416 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:33,609 evil would be ultimate good and when you 417 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:35,470 make a daily choice to put yourself in 418 00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:37,030 service to ultimate good what 419 00:16:41,730 --> 00:16:39,280 you call that the universe source divine 420 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:41,740 source what have you it totally 421 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:44,650 radically changes your life and then I 422 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:46,930 do this personally for myself because 423 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:48,430 then the type of reality shifts I 424 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:50,680 experience are consistently more 425 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:53,530 enjoyable than what I because I actually 426 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:55,420 hear firsthand reports from people that 427 00:17:00,690 --> 00:16:57,730 take a magical approach where they for 428 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:00,700 example try to change one thing I got an 429 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:02,800 email from a person who tried to do that 430 00:17:07,230 --> 00:17:05,530 today I got the email today this person 431 00:17:10,590 --> 00:17:07,240 had been trying to work on getting rid 432 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:10,600 of a gang that was actively harassing 433 00:17:15,060 --> 00:17:13,210 this individual and succeeded is now in 434 00:17:17,810 --> 00:17:15,070 a different reality but now there's a 435 00:17:21,090 --> 00:17:17,820 different kind of a creepy person 436 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:21,100 stalking the individual and also their 437 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:23,290 family members say that they don't seem 438 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:25,210 like they're the same person anymore so 439 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:29,080 Wow I think yeah you can I think I when 440 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:30,310 you talk about evil it's kind of 441 00:17:35,660 --> 00:17:32,530 interesting I think evil is like dirt 442 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:35,670 and you have a nut constant never-ending 443 00:17:40,830 --> 00:17:38,200 process of cleaning your home getting 444 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:40,840 the dirt out doing dishes doing laundry 445 00:17:45,570 --> 00:17:43,360 people don't like cleaning it's not very 446 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:45,580 glamorous but to me that's the 447 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:47,830 equivalence of what you call evil that 448 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:49,510 is basically the equivalent of dirt and 449 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:51,550 what you're intending when it's your 450 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:54,220 overall intentions if you intend to go 451 00:17:59,340 --> 00:17:56,760 for more clean or good or bright or 452 00:18:02,580 --> 00:17:59,350 loving caring compassionate we know what 453 00:18:05,490 --> 00:18:02,590 good is joyful supportive you know 454 00:18:08,370 --> 00:18:05,500 empathetic kind in all these qualities 455 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:08,380 that we associate with goodness and you 456 00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:10,720 put yourself in alignment with that and 457 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:13,240 instead of targeting specific you 458 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:15,880 selfish interests on your part I find my 459 00:18:20,010 --> 00:18:17,650 results are much better so that's my 460 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:20,020 personal approach and then it doesn't 461 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:22,930 matter how many evil nefarious plots 462 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:25,330 might be hatching and how many evil 463 00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:27,940 doers there might be because they have 464 00:18:34,670 --> 00:18:32,260 nothing on what overall those of us who 465 00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:34,680 are choosing something higher are up to 466 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:37,300 our reason that the CIA was all is 467 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:39,580 always trying to get an angle on on 468 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,460 their opponents or America's enemies 469 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:44,320 ranging from their remote viewing 470 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:47,650 programs so I was curious that you found 471 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:50,050 that focusing on the greater good gets 472 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:50,770 better results 473 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:54,550 than selfish gains and I think that's I 474 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:56,350 think that's generally how people are 475 00:19:01,620 --> 00:18:58,930 that's one of the things I think people 476 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:01,630 broadly try really hard to be good and 477 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:04,060 they make dumb mistakes a lot of times 478 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:05,880 out whether it's out of ignorance or 479 00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:08,740 just oversight or sloppiness or 480 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:10,390 clumsiness or something like that 481 00:19:16,830 --> 00:19:14,170 it wasn't until I watched this Manan 482 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:16,840 tangent this fire festival documentary 483 00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:19,510 on net flix that talks about this guy 484 00:19:24,570 --> 00:19:21,880 but say there's like some people who do 485 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:24,580 they just literally are so incapable of 486 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:27,070 being good that you're like oh my god 487 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:29,710 like how do you even combat this but it 488 00:19:33,030 --> 00:19:31,030 sounds like your point is that there's 489 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:33,040 so much more of those people out there 490 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:35,470 hoping for the goodness of humanity and 491 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:38,320 the earth and so forth that it's that's 492 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:39,970 how we've actually been able to get this 493 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:43,480 far that's what I experienced in my life 494 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:46,390 yes and I do see ridiculously huge 495 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:49,900 miracles rather on a regular basis so 496 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:52,510 for me personally it's easy to hold that 497 00:19:58,050 --> 00:19:55,600 faith because I think hope only exists 498 00:20:00,720 --> 00:19:58,060 where you've got unshakable faith that's 499 00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:00,730 the other thing I've learned otherwise 500 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:02,440 if you don't have unshakable faith you 501 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:04,150 can lose your hope and I think that 502 00:20:10,110 --> 00:20:05,710 happens to a lot of people when things 503 00:20:11,850 --> 00:20:10,120 seem like they're in dark times or they 504 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:11,860 get scared you know they look at some 505 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:14,620 news or see some world events and get 506 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:17,500 distracted and cold somehow of course 507 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,690 and you're right I agree that a lot of 508 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:21,520 people mean well but they make mistakes 509 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:23,140 you know they do silly things you got 510 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:24,370 anything because I got something for 511 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:27,970 that so this is what we did this show 512 00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:30,970 like we tend to look at the news and a 513 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:32,560 lot of it is like you're saying it's 514 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:35,110 like it's kind of really terrible but 515 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:37,030 you know there's there's a lot of that 516 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:38,410 that stuff that's kind of out of our 517 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:41,710 control and so we may be like I'm sure 518 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:43,570 we come off for people who are 519 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:45,430 uninitiated we come off as insensitive 520 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:48,430 but I think the best thing to do with 521 00:20:52,590 --> 00:20:50,530 information that is is harmful that you 522 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:52,600 can't do anything about is think as 523 00:20:59,050 --> 00:20:55,850 positively as you can about it 524 00:21:00,640 --> 00:20:59,060 right sometimes it's not easy because we 525 00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:00,650 all have our buttons that get pushed and 526 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:03,470 there's always something where like you 527 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:04,940 know those are fighting words and you 528 00:21:09,130 --> 00:21:07,280 rise to the bait and you get sucked into 529 00:21:10,690 --> 00:21:09,140 it and then after a while you might 530 00:21:12,940 --> 00:21:10,700 notice like wow I'm getting way off 531 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:12,950 course here yeah I agree 532 00:21:21,150 --> 00:21:18,530 so so for people that want to use some 533 00:21:23,170 --> 00:21:21,160 of these techniques when it comes to 534 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:23,180 whether it's lucid dreaming 535 00:21:28,930 --> 00:21:26,090 whether it is manifesting something in 536 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:28,940 their life by positive thinking belief 537 00:21:33,970 --> 00:21:32,150 it seems to be an absolute must here 538 00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:33,980 whether you want to call it magic or not 539 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,120 but you must believe for this to work or 540 00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:40,640 else you're going to not really see any 541 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:41,750 sort of result 542 00:21:47,170 --> 00:21:44,470 am I correct there you have to believe 543 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,180 yeah I think that I think people often 544 00:21:52,090 --> 00:21:49,520 are blind to their beliefs and so the 545 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,100 one glitch in the choice of phraseology 546 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:54,320 might be some people would say but I 547 00:21:58,750 --> 00:21:55,790 don't have any beliefs I'm open-minded 548 00:22:00,940 --> 00:21:58,760 and usually what's going on there is 549 00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:00,950 they're just oblivious to their beliefs 550 00:22:06,190 --> 00:22:03,260 which typically are quite culturally 551 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,200 based so like if you grew up in Norway 552 00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:08,720 or you know Brazil there are certain 553 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:10,160 kinds of reality shifts that are 554 00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:12,950 commonplace there like in Norway they've 555 00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:16,640 got the particular effect where here is 556 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:19,100 normal that you hear people on your 557 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:21,290 porch before they arrive and everybody 558 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:22,700 knows about it there's a word for it 559 00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:24,710 it's normal but in other parts of the 560 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:26,780 world this is not normal and that would 561 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:29,300 be something weird so we we have beliefs 562 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:30,500 that we don't even know that are 563 00:22:34,660 --> 00:22:32,990 happening within ourselves I think 564 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:34,670 that's fascinating about this whole 565 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,710 subject because for best results you 566 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:38,960 need to really examine those beliefs yes 567 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:41,990 how does it make it that much different 568 00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:45,050 than like say a divisive topic such as 569 00:22:49,210 --> 00:22:46,790 religion which wars have been started 570 00:22:51,149 --> 00:22:49,220 over and that's all kind of based in 571 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:51,159 belief 572 00:22:55,710 --> 00:22:54,130 you mean how what what's the yeah the 573 00:22:57,870 --> 00:22:55,720 advantage of having beliefs are not 574 00:23:00,510 --> 00:22:57,880 having them I believe open-mindedness is 575 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,520 actually quite good and there was a good 576 00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:02,559 results if you're not open-minded you 577 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:04,630 can be judgmental and interpret things 578 00:23:10,409 --> 00:23:07,360 differently than they were meant to be 579 00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:10,419 and you know it's terms of wars and 580 00:23:15,299 --> 00:23:13,480 religions and so forth I think it's been 581 00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:15,309 simplified when people say it's the 582 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:17,980 religion that was causing it actually I 583 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:20,350 think it's more tribalism that's going 584 00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:23,080 on and so they can band together around 585 00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:26,260 a flag or a religion but it's usually a 586 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:29,740 tribal situation of some sort and that 587 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:31,570 goes back to like anthropology and 588 00:23:36,570 --> 00:23:33,640 evolution and survival and that's almost 589 00:23:40,289 --> 00:23:36,580 like lizard brain kind of stuff amygdala 590 00:23:43,139 --> 00:23:40,299 yes yes yes I swear it like I've been 591 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:43,149 through some reality shifts myself 592 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:45,100 personally within like the past year 593 00:23:50,399 --> 00:23:48,340 easily it's tough to convey I was well I 594 00:23:53,159 --> 00:23:50,409 was hoping that maybe you could tell us 595 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:53,169 and every one of reality shift that you 596 00:23:57,299 --> 00:23:55,809 experienced recently they kind of are we 597 00:23:58,980 --> 00:23:57,309 using the term and also we use the term 598 00:24:02,700 --> 00:23:58,990 reality shift in the same way as the 599 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:02,710 Mandela effect yes to me they're both 600 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,690 are pretty equivalent there's a slight 601 00:24:08,669 --> 00:24:06,880 subtle difference which I came on I 602 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:08,679 couldn't that phrase reality shift but 603 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:10,630 I'm not the first to use it PMH Atwater 604 00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:14,140 first put that term in her book future 605 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:16,270 memory but I didn't know it at the time 606 00:24:22,769 --> 00:24:18,760 back when the internet was in its 607 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:22,779 infancy in the 1990s I was just looking 608 00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:23,770 for other people that may have 609 00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:26,169 experienced these things so I called it 610 00:24:30,919 --> 00:24:28,840 reality shifts as I was trying to find 611 00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:30,929 out who else is noticing this phenomenon 612 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:34,929 Mandela effect is more it's a more a new 613 00:24:40,889 --> 00:24:37,090 phrase it came on the scene back around 614 00:24:44,669 --> 00:24:40,899 2010 coined by a Fiona broom and she 615 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:44,679 observed this surprising truth that 616 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:47,110 apparently Nelson Mandela was actually 617 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:49,000 alive and she thought he died in prison 618 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:51,190 and so did the person she was talking to 619 00:24:57,419 --> 00:24:55,510 at a conference and so anyway but but 620 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:57,429 actually the two phrases are pretty 621 00:25:01,169 --> 00:24:57,940 similar 622 00:25:03,899 --> 00:25:01,179 the big difference might be that reality 623 00:25:04,409 --> 00:25:03,909 shift was primarily a personal 624 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:04,419 experience 625 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:06,700 because remember this goes back to the 626 00:25:11,549 --> 00:25:09,940 1990s at that time we didn't have much 627 00:25:14,639 --> 00:25:11,559 of an internet so we could not share 628 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:14,649 experiences as readily as we can now to 629 00:25:19,019 --> 00:25:16,690 find the other oddballs that have 630 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,029 noticed weird alternate histories that 631 00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:21,279 we also know about there was no reddit 632 00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:24,309 you know back in the 90s so that I think 633 00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:25,870 that's the huge difference here is that 634 00:25:30,509 --> 00:25:27,820 reality shifts were much more personal 635 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:30,519 the people would put their keys down or 636 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:32,169 their wallet or their coat they'd walk 637 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:34,090 away and things would appear disappear 638 00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:36,730 transform and transport and there were 639 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:39,190 changes in the experience of time to 640 00:25:43,379 --> 00:25:41,110 pretty much an individual thing maybe 641 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:43,389 with a few other people so that's how I 642 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:44,950 was studying and researching that 643 00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:47,500 phenomenon in the 90s with Mandela 644 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:48,940 effect now you're getting something 645 00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:51,850 different where people are attracting 646 00:25:56,639 --> 00:25:53,700 actively tracking what they call reality 647 00:25:59,009 --> 00:25:56,649 residue you have things that they 648 00:26:01,680 --> 00:25:59,019 remember having happens that now there's 649 00:26:04,289 --> 00:26:01,690 no historical evidence for other than 650 00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,299 the memories of people who then create 651 00:26:08,129 --> 00:26:06,480 some sort of art or talk about it or 652 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:08,139 that kind of thing 653 00:26:14,009 --> 00:26:11,769 so it's um they're similar and then you 654 00:26:16,049 --> 00:26:14,019 had another question that what what's 655 00:26:24,930 --> 00:26:16,059 the best detergent to get Reality 656 00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:24,940 residue off your clothes the question I 657 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,460 had is if you could maybe give this el 658 00:26:31,769 --> 00:26:29,679 Venegas an example of a reality shift 659 00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:31,779 that you experienced recently oh gosh 660 00:26:35,509 --> 00:26:33,880 yes I think I may have emailed you this 661 00:26:39,330 --> 00:26:35,519 one because when we were setting up the 662 00:26:43,139 --> 00:26:39,340 call to happen I've had various things 663 00:26:45,419 --> 00:26:43,149 happen with these sorts of chats in this 664 00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:45,429 form of sometimes double or triple or 665 00:26:50,399 --> 00:26:48,669 quadruple links and recently that also 666 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:50,409 happened to me when I was having a 667 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:52,000 package delivered to my house I'd 668 00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:54,760 ordered like a a walking stick kind of 669 00:27:00,029 --> 00:26:57,159 thing and it was showing up at the FedEx 670 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:00,039 emails were coming in the first one 671 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:01,960 panicked me because it said that that my 672 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:04,570 package had arrived the day before and I 673 00:27:09,810 --> 00:27:06,970 people were here at the house but there 674 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,820 had been no package and then I checked 675 00:27:13,159 --> 00:27:11,440 my emails a little further and saw there 676 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:13,169 were three other emails from FedEx 677 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:15,610 showing various other states of the 678 00:27:19,139 --> 00:27:16,330 delivery of the 679 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:19,149 package the same exact package but with 680 00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:20,950 now with four different possible 681 00:27:24,899 --> 00:27:22,840 realities so these are the kind of weird 682 00:27:27,539 --> 00:27:24,909 things that happen which might just seem 683 00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:27,549 kind of freaky but to me they remind me 684 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:31,000 that we can stay calm stay focused on 685 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:33,250 the outcome that we desire and then you 686 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,980 don't slip into the less favorable 687 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,320 outcomes and I've had some reality 688 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:40,000 shifts or have literally gone back and 689 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:41,890 forth between a couple of realities 690 00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:44,890 sometimes with other people in my 691 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:47,320 household such as looking out the window 692 00:27:52,049 --> 00:27:48,820 and noticing that the neighbor's roof 693 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:52,059 next door has a leaf guard it's kind of 694 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:54,010 like a fancy thing you install so that 695 00:27:58,649 --> 00:27:56,169 the gutters on the house don't fill up 696 00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:58,659 with leaves and get clogged when it 697 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,840 rains but instead the leaves just sort 698 00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:03,760 of wash away or fall off or don't get 699 00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:06,419 drawn into the path of the water 700 00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,620 sometimes it looks like our neighbors 701 00:28:12,269 --> 00:28:10,720 they had the roof belief garden it's 702 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:12,279 sometimes that look like they didn't and 703 00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:15,309 I've also witnessed that with our family 704 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,580 dog who occasionally really I had 705 00:28:22,919 --> 00:28:20,559 cataracts in his eyes his eyes were 706 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:22,929 clouding up as he got older and I 707 00:28:28,169 --> 00:28:24,610 realized oh boy I don't want him to have 708 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:28,179 cataracts so just like a lucid dream but 709 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:30,370 it's lucid living I would recognize 710 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:32,169 sometimes it looks like he has cataracts 711 00:28:37,409 --> 00:28:35,860 but we know that he doesn't and so I 712 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:37,419 went through that and then my daughter 713 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:39,850 also noticed it she said got bad news 714 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:42,190 for you mom I said isn't about the dog 715 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:45,370 she said yes and so we went through that 716 00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:47,260 and she laughed and she understood okay 717 00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:49,029 sometimes it looks like he has cataracts 718 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:51,220 but we don't want him to have cataracts 719 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:53,350 we're not choosing that and I think I 720 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:55,330 think for Humanity who you were asking 721 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,130 earlier about the ramifications of all 722 00:29:02,039 --> 00:28:59,440 this this is the ramifications when you 723 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,049 look at the news and you might see false 724 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:03,760 news you might see different different 725 00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:07,000 takes on the same story you have a role 726 00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,820 in steering what's actually going on and 727 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:11,919 I think that's the big takeaway from the 728 00:29:17,129 --> 00:29:14,980 Mandela effect and reality shifts Wow 729 00:29:19,769 --> 00:29:17,139 hey there's a good question coming up in 730 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:19,779 the chat I want to throw at you it's 731 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:22,210 about deja vu and because I think 732 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:24,490 everybody kind of experiences deja vu 733 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:26,169 where it's like you're doing something 734 00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:28,510 you feel like oh my god this has already 735 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:29,740 happened 736 00:29:33,659 --> 00:29:32,169 like I've experienced this you were in 737 00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:33,669 the same place you were saying the same 738 00:29:37,649 --> 00:29:36,070 thing I had this thing in my hand what 739 00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:37,659 is deja vu have you thought much about 740 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:39,419 that 741 00:29:45,229 --> 00:29:43,619 experiencing time in a couple of 742 00:29:47,329 --> 00:29:45,239 different ways sometimes it's like 743 00:29:49,699 --> 00:29:47,339 events feel like they're repeating again 744 00:29:51,379 --> 00:29:49,709 but you know it's not literally 745 00:29:53,509 --> 00:29:51,389 repeating again it's more like you 746 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:53,519 experienced it outside of time like you 747 00:29:57,709 --> 00:29:55,769 were dreaming it before or who knows 748 00:30:00,560 --> 00:29:57,719 what that's what it feels like and for 749 00:30:02,209 --> 00:30:00,570 me it's enjoyable usually to go through 750 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:02,219 the sequence of events again it's like 751 00:30:05,869 --> 00:30:02,849 yay 752 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:05,879 I picked this this is fun that's what it 753 00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,369 is for me but I think if you watch the 754 00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:11,039 movie The Matrix they have that they 755 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:13,529 call it deja vu when the cat was walking 756 00:30:18,139 --> 00:30:15,809 past the doorway the kaneo is talking to 757 00:30:19,699 --> 00:30:18,149 Trinity or something they're having a 758 00:30:23,410 --> 00:30:19,709 little discussion like okay that's a 759 00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:23,420 glitch in the matrix yes 760 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:25,940 that gets into how we feel about what's 761 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:27,530 going on with these reality shifts are 762 00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:29,870 we living in a artificial reality 763 00:30:35,770 --> 00:30:33,740 perhaps is the more you are aware of 764 00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:35,780 these Rallye reality shifts the more 765 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:38,540 they occur like a like this kind of 766 00:30:43,539 --> 00:30:41,570 snowball at this point for me it seems 767 00:30:46,510 --> 00:30:43,549 like that is true and it seems true of 768 00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:46,520 people I've talked to that usually which 769 00:30:50,110 --> 00:30:48,380 gets back to beliefs again I think the 770 00:30:51,610 --> 00:30:50,120 key is the beliefs when you know that 771 00:30:53,890 --> 00:30:51,620 this can happen and you really have 772 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:53,900 faith in it then you would definitely 773 00:30:59,409 --> 00:30:55,970 are going to be able to witness them on 774 00:31:00,760 --> 00:30:59,419 a daily basis and I think if you're 775 00:31:03,159 --> 00:31:00,770 afraid of them you can bring them on 776 00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:03,169 that way too it's often it gets into the 777 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:05,870 subconscious running the show so if you 778 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:07,570 have fears you're very likely to 779 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:09,679 experience what you're afraid of 780 00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:11,870 again I recommend a positive approach 781 00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:14,600 here so you're not loaded up with all of 782 00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:17,960 your worst fears about whatever spiders 783 00:31:21,730 --> 00:31:20,120 or what-have-you I'm trying to be 784 00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,740 positive here but sometimes the show is 785 00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:24,080 really bad and so I'm trying to I'm 786 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:25,940 trying to smile but this show has been 787 00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,090 great so far so thank you for that 788 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:29,840 someone in the chat is actually 789 00:31:37,030 --> 00:31:32,330 wondering if you had any opinion on 790 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:37,040 chaos magic well again in general I'm 791 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:39,530 not a not much of a fan of magic in 792 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:42,169 general I think I explained why maybe 793 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:45,110 not but I think chaos is interesting 794 00:31:48,010 --> 00:31:46,190 because it when you look at some of the 795 00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:48,020 games where there's like good chaos that 796 00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:51,080 idea that you're a chaotic influence but 797 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:53,780 you're doing it in a good direction if I 798 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:55,130 was going to do magic that would be the 799 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:56,480 kind of magic I would do but otherwise 800 00:32:00,880 --> 00:31:58,250 I'm not really recommending magic 801 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:00,890 because the typical problem with magic 802 00:32:05,049 --> 00:32:02,570 in general that I've seen and I'm not an 803 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:05,059 expert but what I've witnessed is people 804 00:32:08,650 --> 00:32:06,650 thinking they know what they want and 805 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:08,660 that's this it's kind of like the 806 00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:10,220 blessing and the curse of magic right 807 00:32:14,169 --> 00:32:11,990 there because when you think you know 808 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:14,179 what you want you're working from a 809 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:18,169 relatively small frame of view then your 810 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:21,140 results are going to be limited by by 811 00:32:25,090 --> 00:32:23,570 the quality of your consciousness that 812 00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,100 you're bringing to it so if you're not 813 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:27,919 already at your highest level of self 814 00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:29,750 that's most aligned with ultimate good 815 00:32:34,150 --> 00:32:31,640 then your results are not going to be 816 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:34,160 most aligned with ultimate good so but 817 00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:35,750 again if you're going to do chaos magic 818 00:32:41,469 --> 00:32:36,899 be good 819 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:41,479 yes the good organized chaos I suppose 820 00:32:44,989 --> 00:32:43,529 thank you very much Cinci I really 821 00:32:50,029 --> 00:32:44,999 appreciate your time do you if for 822 00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:50,039 anybody who wants to start believing or 823 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:52,200 thinking or living this way do you have 824 00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:55,440 any simple suggestions of where for for 825 00:32:59,779 --> 00:32:58,019 where they can start okay well the first 826 00:33:02,089 --> 00:32:59,789 thing is check out my website actually 827 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:02,099 because I've been studying this for 20 828 00:33:07,339 --> 00:33:03,529 years and I've got a free newsletter 829 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:07,349 every issue is posted free online so 830 00:33:12,979 --> 00:33:09,289 it's a source of information called it's 831 00:33:15,109 --> 00:33:12,989 realityshifters.com and that's an 832 00:33:16,639 --> 00:33:15,119 excellent way to get started and then 833 00:33:18,829 --> 00:33:16,649 I've got books that I've written as well 834 00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:18,839 that reality shifts book is the one I've 835 00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:20,820 been talking about my newest book is 836 00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:24,059 called quantum jumps and that one is a 837 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:26,460 little less embarrassing in case your 838 00:33:30,619 --> 00:33:28,409 parents or your friends or somebody 839 00:33:32,959 --> 00:33:30,629 respectable sees it because it's more 840 00:33:36,049 --> 00:33:32,969 it's more based in the science it gets 841 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:36,059 much more it's less of the lucid 842 00:33:40,099 --> 00:33:38,070 dreaming and all that stuff that reality 843 00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:40,109 shifts gets into which is pretty cool 844 00:33:45,469 --> 00:33:43,200 but it gets more into the physics behind 845 00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:45,479 it and some of the placebo science that 846 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:48,059 we now have as well as what the ideas of 847 00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:50,129 how we might be literally jumping 848 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:52,440 through wormholes for example and how we 849 00:33:56,749 --> 00:33:54,440 can travel in the form of consciousness 850 00:34:01,399 --> 00:33:56,759 according to what we know about science 851 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:01,409 this it's mind-blowing and I recommend 852 00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:03,119 everyone checking out her website get 853 00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:04,919 some her books listen to her talk this 854 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:07,349 this is if people can wrap their head 855 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:08,730 around this we could have such an 856 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:13,740 amazing world yes it already is amazing 857 00:34:17,779 --> 00:34:15,690 we can make it better thanks for making 858 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:17,789 the time this is the this is that super 859 00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,230 interesting people in the chat we're 860 00:34:22,490 --> 00:34:21,119 talking about like whoa I'm gonna have 861 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:22,500 to come back and listen to this when 862 00:34:25,819 --> 00:34:24,210 there's not so many distractions around 863 00:34:28,279 --> 00:34:25,829 it's deep 864 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:28,289 thank you so much for helping walk us 865 00:34:31,579 --> 00:34:29,970 through it because it's not often we 866 00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:31,589 have smart people on the show but yes 867 00:34:38,269 --> 00:34:33,950 you just Mike and I yes you yes 868 00:34:39,740 --> 00:34:38,279 pretty smart thank you thank you thank 869 00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,750 you Cynthia we really appreciate your 870 00:34:44,269 --> 00:34:41,520 time and I'm gonna send you a follow-up 871 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:44,279 email awesome thanks so much all right 872 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:46,260 thank you bye good night well Jillian 873 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:47,190 you just want to take a little break 874 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:50,460 here Joe I need to fill up my water 875 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:53,849 and and then but we'll be back in five 876 00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:54,569 minutes everyone 877 00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:56,550 thank you yes if you want to join the 878 00:35:03,670 --> 00:34:59,640 snake or disco give us an email at our 879 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:03,680 botamo at gmail.com check out obdam